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by Robert Simms (writer), , August 22, 2010

Credit: Pew Forum
Sharp decline in Americans who believe Obama is Christian.

Do Obama and Limbaugh share the same religious worldview?

A recent poll conducted by The Pew Forum reveals that 18% of Americans believe that President Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim. Imagine that.

The poll also shows that only 34% say that Obama is a Christian. Personally, I fall in with the 43% of Americans who do not know what religion the President follows.

This poll was conducted prior to Obama's recent statements regarding the Ground Zero Mosque and it would be interesting to see if those percentages have changed.

Joshua DuBois, who Time magazine once called "Obama's pastor-in- Chief", is a bit surprised by the poll numbers. According to the Washington Post, DuBois said,

"While the president has been diligent and personally committed to his own Christian faith, there's certainly folks who are intent on spreading falsehoods about the president and his values and beliefs."

If Obama is, indeed, a Christian, then he is what I would call a "Rush Limbaugh Christian". By this, I do not want to imply that I believe Obama has an ounce of Conservatism in his body. No, a "Rush Limbaugh Christian" can fall within either political camp. If Obama believes himself to be a Christian, then like Rush, it is a generic sort of Christianity which is dangerously close to Indifferentism (a belief that all religions - and in this case, all forms of Christianity - are equally valid).

I got the idea of calling these sorts of generic, non-denominational Christians "Rush Limbaugh Christian" after listening to Limbaugh side-steeping the issue when a caller once asked Rush what his religious background was; he simply stated "Christian".

We know that Obama and Limbaugh reportedly have the same view concerning the issue of same-sex "marriage" versus civil unions. Both Obama and Limbaugh are on record as having said they support civil unions between same-sex couples; that view doesn't conform to traditional Christianity. Like far too many people, Obama and Limbaugh have modified Christianity to fit their already pre-conceived opinions rather than allow themselves to be changed by the teachings of Christ.

I can't imagine that either Obama or Limbaugh would be pleased by my comparison, but often the truth hurts. It would profit both men to take a serious look into what the Church teaches. Both men may picture himself as a prophet, but both are less god-like than many of their followers contend.



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By Libdrone on August 22, 2010 at 04:34 pm

Robert,

How, pray, could you Possibly know what goes on in Mr. Obama's heart or presume to judge his faith? I was raised as a Methodist and we were taught that faith is something deep in your heart that could guide one in striving to live a life that is more Christ-like. But it was clearly something that lies within the heart and is only knowable to the person who holds that faith and to God. Jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". Questioning the private, sacred faith of any political leader is beyond the pale, imho.

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By Robert Simms on August 22, 2010 at 05:23 pm

@ libdrone,

If by "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" you mean I can't criticize Obama, then, by the same token you can't criticize me. I can certainly have an opinion on what might be in his heart by observing his actions.

@HurricaneDean,

Not being a fundamentalist, I don't interpret the Bible the way you think I should.

Both you guys are critical of me for being critical. You guys could make a great comedy team!

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By Libdrone on August 22, 2010 at 05:38 pm

Dean,

It never ceases to amaze me how so many of the most visible and vocal self-identified Christians seem to totally miss that Christ's message was one of love and compassion and that his highest commandment to his followers was "Love Thy Neighbor". IMHO, nothing can be rightly called Christian that is not done with genuine love in one's heart and in humble, prayerful remembrance of Christ's love for all mankind.

Robert,

In various threads today I've pointed out where you began an article with an un-supported and un-provable assumption and taken issue with your criticizing my "objectivity". I have never nor will I ever say one word about your faith or religious beliefs. IMHO it is the height of vanity (one of those seven deadly sins) to loudly proclaim one's faith and beliefs and a horrible breach of manners to publicly inquire about another's faith and beliefs, let alone to publicly criticize the private, sacred faith of a man one has never actually even met.

You are certainly entitled to your opinions, Robert. Just as I am entitled to take issue with your opinions. It will be for others to judge who is playing the fool in this thread.

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By Robert Simms on August 22, 2010 at 05:41 pm

We certaintly see "media pundits and activists [trying] to impose their beliefs on the rest of America"...from the Left and the Right. Both sides are guilty of that.

If you think Christians are pushy, trying to force their ways on you, you'd really hate living under Sharia.

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By Robert Simms on August 22, 2010 at 05:49 pm

@ HurricaneDean,

Where does it say in the Gospels that Jesus condoned genocide and slvery?

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By Libdrone on August 22, 2010 at 05:58 pm

Dean,

I try to avoid stating too much about my religious beliefs and my faith, which I believe really should be a private thing between me and God. I don't attend any church or congregation, however I try in my own way to remember and live up to the best of what I was taught about Christ's teachings.

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By Robert Simms on August 22, 2010 at 06:13 pm

First, Joshua isn't in the Gospels, so I will skip it.

The quote from Luke has nothing to do with genocide or slavery. The quote comes from Jesus' explanation of a parable. His explanation was understandable to the people of that time. Perhaps you might read the entire 12th chapter of Luke to get a clearer understanding.

Likewise, if you read Matthew 18 in it's entirety, you'll see that Jesus did not say that it was acceptable that "his master ordered him to be sold, along with his wife, his children, and all his property, in payment of the debt." It does say "Moved with compassion the master of that servant let him go and forgave him the loan."

I asked you where in the Gospel Jesus condoned slavery and genocide. So far, you haven't.

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By Robert Simms on August 22, 2010 at 06:30 pm

It's not necessary for anyone to vilify Islam. The <a href="http://sorryalltheclevernamesaretaken.blogspot.com/2010/08/time-to-keep-disgruntled-democrats-on.html"> Muslims do a pretty good job </a> of that by themselves.

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By Robert Simms on August 22, 2010 at 06:31 pm

I guess this site doesn't allow as much html as it should.

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By Robert Simms on August 22, 2010 at 06:47 pm

The story is a parable....it has nothing to do with slaves or masters or servants. Jesus was explaning the Kingdom of heaven in a way the people of that time could comprehend.

The "facts" as you call them, did not really happen. He was using the story to explain what His "heavenly Father [will] do to you, unless each of you forgives his brother from his heart".

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By Robert Simms on August 22, 2010 at 06:49 pm

<a href="http://sorryalltheclevernamesaretaken.blogspot.com/2010/08/time-to-keep-disgruntled-democrats-on.html"> like this?</a>

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By Robert Simms on August 22, 2010 at 06:50 pm

That doesn't work either/

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By Robert Simms on August 22, 2010 at 06:59 pm

The Christian Americans who used Bible quotes to support slavery were Protestants guilty of prooftexting. The Catholic Church didn't support slavery.

As for demonizing religion, Islam speaks for itself.

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By Robert Simms on August 22, 2010 at 07:03 pm

I don't believe you understand the parable.

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By Robert Simms on August 22, 2010 at 07:17 pm

George W. Bush does not speak for me.

If you choose to believe Islam is a religion of peace, then you do so at your peril.

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By Libdrone on August 22, 2010 at 07:59 pm

Testing A Link

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By Robert Simms on August 22, 2010 at 09:22 pm

Islam is not a religion of peace.

The dictionary defines "demonize" as to portray as wicked and threatening. One need only look to the actions of Muslims worldwide to see that the religion, as practiced by many of it's followers, is wicked and threatening.

If the world press can't convince you that Islam is evil, then I certainly can't.

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By Robert Simms on August 22, 2010 at 10:18 pm

HurricaneDean,

You should go straight to the bookstore and pick up a copy of the Qur'an.

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By Robert Simms on August 23, 2010 at 06:42 am

Jefferson can hardly be used as an example of tolerance.
In a letter, he wrote,
"Just as the orangutan prefers the negress to females of his own species; so too the negro is drawn to the Superior beauty of flowing hair, fairer skin and a more elegant symmetry of form of whites."

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By Robert Simms on August 23, 2010 at 09:04 am

Your bigotry is showing when you call anti-American extremists "rightwing".

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By D'Ann Redondo on August 24, 2010 at 03:02 am

Dean,

Try this one on for size. I ran into it today. It seemed to fit, and I'd love to hear your thoughts.

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By Libdrone on August 24, 2010 at 07:39 am

D'Ann,

It seems to me that in a country that was founded upon and remains comitted to freedom of religion, in which we are committed to recognizing and honoring each man's RIGHT to worship however he may choose, any religion or none at all, it is not Possible to recognize religion as matter of race. Interesting article, but irrelevant politically, imho.

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