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Requiem For A Dream: The Decline Of American Values

by john robertson (writer), January 18, 2009

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Are Americans merely uneducated about the difference between a republic and a democracy? Or have we as a country changed, and now we aspire to be the type of tyranny our ancestors feared?

Living in the aftermath of the passage of Proposition 8, I am compelled to point out that most voters are misguided when it comes to their critiques of the judges and the politicians who support overturning the narrowly won constitutional amendment. After much reading of the blogosphere, Fox News watching, and editorial surfing; I am amazed that at the core of this issue is not merely a misunderstanding about what Proposition 8 is or is not, but rather it is a gross failure by the majority to understand what our country is and is not. In short: America is not and never has been a real democracy!

In churches and chat rooms across America these days, you can hear the claim that "the majority" has spoken, and therefore only "anarchist liberals", "militant gays" and "activist judges" would dare to challenge what "the majority" has deemed to be fair in California. What the majority of people in chat rooms and churches don't seem to understand is that our country is not that simplified type of democracy; nor is that the vision our founding fathers had. They saw democracy as another form of tyranny, and if they were alive today to surf the net and watch screaming talk show hosts on Fox News describing our country as a democracy, they would be saddened by the betrayal of their founding vision.

Two of the most important documents of our nation, the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, speak not of a democracy, but rather another form of government all together. Article IV, section 4, of the great American Constitution, promises"...to every state of this union a Republican form of government."

Furthermore, The Pledge of Allegiance, written in 1892, does not say to "the democracy for which is stands" but rather to "the republic for which it stands."

Our founding father, John Adams, described well the difference between a democracy and a republic when he said, "You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments; rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws..." John Adams also said, "Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There was never a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."

So how does all of this hoity toity verbiage apply to today's voter in plain, simple English?

Well, let's turn the tables and pretend the gun hating liberals got together to change the constitution against the minority of conservatives in the state. I can most likely stand on corners in San Francisco, Hollywood, Santa Cruz and Berkeley and get enough signatures in just one week to put a proposition on the ballot barring all citizens in California from owning firearms. However, even if it successfully passed, (which it probably would) the courts would be forced to overturn it because it is unconstitutional.

That is one example of when it just wouldn't matter what the majority voted. The majority would be wrong and the courts forced to correct it because we are not a democracy; we are a constitutional republic. It wouldn't matter that the gun haters would call the gun lovers "anarchists" or "Anti-Americans" when they sought to over rule the passed state amendment. Despite anger from the gun hating masses, the courts would still be obligated to enforce the constitution of the republic, protecting the rights of the minority of gun lovers in California. 

Seemingly, many voters are not savy enough when it comes to civics and American history. They simply trust their religious leaders and their politicians and so easily forget that in America we follow a constitution, which says "liberty and justice for ALL" and not "liberty and justice for the MAJORITY or the CHRISTIANS". The true history of our country is one of an idealistic people who were the escaped survivors of tyranny and they believed that government should be a protector of inalienable human rights. Likewise, our founding fathers made sure that nowhere in the constitution was there a suggestion of the government being a granter of rights by way of a democratic rule.

Here's the question: are Americans merely uneducated about the difference between a republic and a democracy? Or have we as a country changed, and now we aspire to be the type of tyranny our ancestors feared, where a congress can do anything it can convince a majority of voters to do? Listening to the chatter of "the majority", I am afraid it may be the latter.

As for me, I will continue to pledge allegiance to the republic!



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19 comments on Requiem For A Dream: The Decline Of American Values

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By Julian Gallo on January 18, 2009 at 09:00 am

are Americans merely uneducated about the difference between a republic and a democracy? Or have we as a country changed, and now we aspire to be the type of tyranny our ancestors feared, where a congress can do anything it can convince a majority of voters to do?

I don't knowif it's that people are uneducated about the difference between a Republic and a Democracy as is it that the definition of Democracy became "Freedom" and that's how it is generally used.  But you are making a good point...that the United States is a Republic and not a Democracy in the most technical sense.  A Republic is Representative Democracy which is what we have.  I could see why the founders feared a direct Democracy.  Was it Jefferson who referred to it as "tyranny by the majority"?  (or was it Franklin? I'm not sure).  If it were left strictly to "Majority Rules" lord knows how many people in America would lose their rights and suffer under what the Majority wants.  I always felt that the Majority isn't always right, even if it is a majority and I think the founders had this in mind as well---in theory at least---but I think they realized this and came up with a representative democracy in order to guard against that.

But I think the usage of the term "Democracy" in most people's minds simply means "Freedom".

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By HurricaneDean on January 18, 2009 at 11:54 am

Actually, what is missing from this essay is the term liberal democracy, or constitutional democracy. "The term "liberal" in "liberal democracy" does not imply that the government of such a democracy must follow the political ideology of liberalism.  It is merely a reference to the fact that liberal democracies feature constitutional protections of individual rights from government power, which were first proposed during the Age of Enlightenment by philosophers who formulated theories of social contract." wikipedia.org

Julian, the phrase tyranny of the majority came from Tocqueville's book Democracy in America. (Everyone that studies political science or American history should own a copy of that book.) But,  you are so right in using the phrase and as well as John was in making reference to it in the last paragraph.

The funny thing about republics is that they can take the form of just about anything. While the U.S. is a republic, so is Cuba or say The Peoples Republic of China.  A republic pretty much means any state that has a system of government lead by a head of state. Any kind of head of state will do for a republic, like say a king, supreme ruler, democratically elected president, grand poobah, whatever.

Nonetheless, you make some really good points in this article.

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By HurricaneDean on January 18, 2009 at 12:11 pm

John, one more thing, I really liked your analogy of gun rights in the state. I bet the majority of the state could pass a ban on owning guns. And, the supreme court would be right to overturn the majority vote.  Because, as we all know, in the liberal democracy known as the United States of America, the Constitution protects the individual right to bear arms. Whether the morjority likes it or not.

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By D. E. Carson on January 18, 2009 at 09:27 pm

Actually, a state ban on gun ownership would be overruled by the FEDERAL Constitution.  In all cases federal trumps state every time -- which is why dope smoking hippies in California are still guilty of DEA violations when they grow, buy, sell, possess or partake of marijuana even if it is for medical purposes only.

So why exactly hasn't the California state marijuana laws been challenged? (And for Category Five's benefit: it's probably because too many liberals are under the influence of drugs and can't think clearly anyway).

HAVE FUN!!!

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By D. E. Carson on January 18, 2009 at 09:36 pm

Now on a more serious note:  teachers are too busy teaching to the standardized tests to actually have time to expound on the origins of a democratic republic.  Therefore, students are not being taught civics in school.  Additionally, liberals don't want such things taught in school because they know that if children are given too much information they will ask questions and as far as liberals are concerned, questions are a bad thing.  When students ask questions, they aren't being good little socialists and just blindly accepting what teachers are teaching.  When students ask questions, they begin to find out things like how America is a democratic republic and how Congress is really supposed to work instead of being bought and paid for by ultra left-wing radicals like George Soros.

I'm just waiting for Obama's first week in office.  He promised to close Gitmo on his first day and I hear bookies in Vegas already have 6:1 that he won't do it.  I hear the odds are a little better that it won't happen by the end of the week and that it's a whopping 22:1 that it won't happen before February 1.  No one has dared go to the end of the first term yet.

If I had any money (thank you Barney Frank and Chris Dodd) I'd put some down on how quickly Obama gets our troops out of Iraq even though there is already a plan in place to do just that -- hammered out last fall by the Prime Minister of Iraq and some guy living in the White House...

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By HurricaneDean on January 19, 2009 at 08:56 am

D.E., No doubt federal courts would overturn John's hypothetical gun ban in the state of California, like it should prop 8 under the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

As for this comment, "Additionally, liberals don't want such things taught in school because they know that if children are given too much information they will ask questions and as far as liberals are concerned, questions are a bad thing

Well, that comment is just another crock for you. I can't see how your endless stream of hate filled liberal bashing adds anything constructive to this site? It's like you have nothing else to contribute here. The majority of school teachers are liberal, the majority of Americans are liberal.  I wish you would stop disrespecting the people you disagree with and learn to engage in civil discourse.

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By D. E. Carson on January 19, 2009 at 03:10 pm

I take offense at your claim that I hate liberals.  I don't hate liberals.  I just think that most of them are misguided fools who don't have the sense to come in out of the rain.

As for, "the majority of Americans are liberal", who's making broad generalizations without anything to back it up now?  You bash me for making comments and scream at me for not using facts to back them up then you go an pop off a crock of crap like that.    YOU HYPOCRITE! 

Just because liberal Democrats control both houses of Congress and the White House doesn't mean the majority of Americans are liberal.  It just means a majority of people voted for them.  I know a lot of misguided conservative Republicans who voted for Obama just like I know a lot of liberal Democrats who voted for John McCain.  I would rather like to believe that people vote for the person they think will do the better job.  It's not their fault that the liberal media in this country painted a false and misleading picture of Obama -- but every election has it consequences.

Don't ever try and call me on anything anymore -- you just lost that right.

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By HurricaneDean on January 19, 2009 at 05:25 pm

 There are plenty of polls that support my statement, the majority of Americans are liberal.  Here is an excerpt from Eric Alterman's, "Why America is Liberal, A Political Handbook For Post-Bush America"

"These numbers are practically indistinguishable from the average for the past 30 years (20 percent liberal, 33 percent conservative, 47 percent moderate). And yet when “moderates” were questioned by pollsters for Louis Harris and Associates in 2005, they turned out to share pretty much the same beliefs as self-described liberals—they just couldn’t bring themselves to embrace the hated label.

In fact, due primarily to the hijacking of the Republican Party by a coterie of extremist conservatives on issue after issue, a powerful supermajority of more than 60 percent of Americans questioned in these surveys almost always espouse the “liberal” alternatives. And most Americans’ answers, believe it or not, frequently fall to the left of those espoused by many liberal politicians. ...

As the psychologist Drew Westen aptly observes, the word liberal for most Americans implies “elite, tax and spend, out of touch,” and “Massachusetts.” And yet the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press in Washington, D.C., in conducting an extensive set of opinion polls over the past few decades, has demonstrated a decided trend toward increasingly “liberal” positions, by almost any definition.

To offer just a few examples of this liberal-in-all-but-name attitude regarding economic and welfare policy, according to the 2006 survey released in March 2007, roughly 70 percent of respondents believe that the government has a responsibility “to take care of people who can’t take care of themselves”—up from 61 percent in 2002. The number saying that the government should guarantee “every citizen enough to eat and a place to sleep” has increased by a similar margin over the past five years (from 63 percent to 69 percent).

Two-thirds of the public (66 percent)—including a majority of those who say they would prefer a smaller government (57 percent)—favor government-funded health insurance for all citizens. ..."

D.E., now you owe me an apology for calling me a hypocrite.  But, I won't hold my breath for an apology from you.

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By john robertson on January 20, 2009 at 12:34 am

Dear D.E.,

I am not sure why you clarified that the ban on guns would be overturned by the federal constitution when that is exactly what my article pointed out; just as proposition 8 must be overturned by the federal constitution.

My article was about two things only, and nothing else. First, that America is not a pure democracy, and secondly; a majority of Americans may not vote away the constitutional rights of a minority.

My article is not about bizarre, angry, paranoid left wing conspiracy theories or about public education. I hope this helps to clear up your confusion.

However, I do feel compelled to point out that it isn't teachers in school telling everybody that "the majority has spoken and the militant gays must accept it." It is seemingly educated, conservative political talk show hosts who are repeating this hog wash to their listening audience. Too bad they do not understand civics and government as well as you and I.

Oh well. That's propbably some liberal teacher's fault too.

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By D. E. Carson on January 20, 2009 at 12:36 am

You're right to not hold your breath.  You ain't gettin' it.   You took your so-called facts out of a book written by a known liberal.  Alterman's blog "Altercation" was hosted by MSNBC -- the most liberally bent of all of NBC's news division and is now hosted by Media Matters -- another ultra-left wing liberal wack job of an organization.  Even his entry on Wikipedia (which I rarely, if ever, give any legitimacy to) calls him "a liberal American journalist" among other things.  Furthermore, how is it that many of the same polls that Alterman quoted in the exerpt you posted were the same polls showing McCain winning more often than Obama?

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By Morgana on January 20, 2009 at 02:55 pm

D.E. is incorrect in his comments here that , “which is why dope smoking hippies in California are still guilty of DEA violations when they grow, buy, sell, possess or partake of marijuana even if it is for medical purposes only.

So why exactly hasn't the California state marijuana laws been challenged?”

D.E. it is no longer a DEA violation and California’s state marijuana law was challenged.  In We Really Lost This War! Craig gave us the links in U.S. Supreme Court Affirms States' Rights for Medical Marijuana - December 1, 2008.  "It's now settled that state law enforcement officers cannot arrest medical marijuana patients or seize their medicine simply because they prefer the contrary federal law," said Joe Elford, Chief Counsel with Americans for Safe Access (ASA).  Medical marijuana is legal in Nevada, www.MedicalMarijuanaServices.com or in Northern Nevada, call 775.626.3117.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that State Medical Marijuana Laws are Not Preempted by Federal Law when a medical marijuana case appealed by the City of Garden Grove was denied review.

http://americansforsafeaccess.org/article.php?id=5614

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By Craig B on January 20, 2009 at 05:38 pm

Are YOU a Hippy?  “A Hippie is a person who was raised under the ideological system that came out of the tumultuous 1960's in North America and western Europe. They are either of the flower-child/baby boomer generation or that generations' subsequent offspring. They possess a core belief set revolving around the values of peace and love as being essential in an increasingly globalized society, and they are oftentimes associated with non-violent anti-governmental groups.”  From http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hippie

Are YOU a Liberal?  From wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

A liberal is

1.             broad: showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant ...

2.             having political or social views favoring reform and progress

3.             tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition

4.             a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties

5.             big: given or giving freely; "was a big tipper"; "the bounteous goodness of God"; "bountiful compliments"; "a freehanded host"; "a handsome allowance"; "Saturday's child is loving and giving"; "a liberal backer of the arts"; "a munificent gift"; "her fond and openhanded grandfather"

6.             a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets

I’m one of those “liberal” “dope smoking hippies.”  A life-long one and proud of it.  As a “liberal” “dope smoking hippy,” I went to Viet Nam to defend my country where I earned an Honorable Discharge from the U.S. Navy.

As a “liberal” “dope smoking hippy,” I went to University of California, Berkeley, on my GI Bill, a U.S. government “entitlement” where I earned degrees in Philosophy and Physics.

As a “liberal” “dope smoking hippy,” I was a Sonoma County Deputy Sheriff, who along with my Sheriff, fellow officers and community, was committed to defending my community by providing professional, firm, fair and compassionate law enforcement.  I retired with honors from the Sonoma County Sheriff’s Department.

As for marijuana, my wife, who is under treatment for cancer, has medical prescriptions in both California and Nevada, for marijuana for her excruciating pain and wasting away resulting from the cancer treatments.

I am pleased that she no longer has to live in fear of her Federal or state police government when Conservative U.S. Supreme Chief Justice Roberts, appointed by a Conservative President, and his fellow U.S. Supreme Court Justices, ruled in accordance the U.S. Constitution and its clear support for state’s rights.

As Dr. Frye wrote, there is a preponderance of evidence that is clear and convincing that “The only way you can die from marijuana is to get arrested and get killed in jail.”    Legalizing marijuana immediately results in the zero outlay of tax dollars for what are no longer criminals, and in the vast stream of revenue each of the country’s 50 states would realize as a result of selling marijuana, like cigarettes, on the open market, with every pack or pouch of pot fetching several dollars in so-called “sin taxes.” The government would correctly regulate the potency and purity of the marijuana, and sell it for a reasonable, if high, price, nearly obliterating the black market, thus further making a significant dent in the ranks of those who profit from manufacturing and selling large amounts of the drug. Like alcohol and tobacco, vendors would be prohibited from selling marijuana to those under 21, and the requisite health warnings would be prominently placed on each unit sold.

As for gays getting married, I have only heard arguments against it that are solely and ultimately based on intolerance.

Good article, John.

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By john robertson on January 20, 2009 at 10:41 pm

Wow! That post almost brought a tear to my eye. I am impressed. Thanks, Craig B.

My grandmother had lung cancer. When she was sick there was no such thing as legalized medical marijuana in our state. My grandmother suffered terribly, and she decided that due to her poor chances of survival at the age of 75, she did not want to fight and make her last days even worse than she was experiencing.

In tears, my family went to her doctor and asked him to help us convince her to fight. The doctor, a very kind African American man, closed his door and told us he wanted to speak to us very frankly. He said that he is not encouraging us to do anything we find morally offensive, nor is he telling us to break any laws, "But," he said, "If this were my mother I would buy some marijuana and make her comfortable at home." He explained that marijuana would ease her and even give her an appetite. My aunt, who was a devout Christian, was opposed to this and told us she could not in good faith participate, but she agreed to let us make our own decision about how we cared for her. My brother, a non-medical marijuana pot smoker, went home with me and we cooked up marijuana into different recipes and fed it to my grandmother. The last few weeks, my brother and my grandmother smoked marijuana together and laughed about it (my grandmother had never tried marijuana) and spent quality time together.

I am grateful to that doctor for going out on a limb and telling us about this option that we never would have thought of, nor would most medical professionals felt safe enough to share with us at that time in California. I strongly support an individual's right, and a family's right, to make end of life decisions. I feel strongly that should include treatment options, or refusal of treatment. I feel government should respect the great American constitution built by our wise founding fathers and stay out of all of our personal affairs.(Marriage beds, gun cabinets, sick beds).

I am glad that we can give medicine to our sick and suffering in this state, and I am glad that your wife has access to that medicine. I hope she fights hard and wins.

I send you both, and your family, much love, hugs, and positive energy.

John R.

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By Brian on January 25, 2009 at 03:20 pm

That article regarding medical marijuana in California was misinterpreted by Morgana. Please go back and read the article. All that article says is that the US Supreme Court affirmed by declining to review the case is that LOCAL and STATE law enforcement officers cannot arrest people for violating the federal statute outlawing marijuana. It is still a FEDERAL crime to possess, grow, distribute, sell or smoke pot just as it always has been. The DEA (which is a federal law enforcement agency) still has full authority to arrest offenders. Nice try!

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By points west on January 26, 2009 at 04:49 pm

Well, I interpreted that recent Supreme Court ruling as a state’s rights issue.  Based on that recent ruling upholding states rights, the Feds can no longer go into states that have legalized say marijuana, and arrest someone for possessing pot.  That is now unconstitutional.  The DEA cannot enforce in states that have legalized pot.  The DEA does not have that authority.  They never did.  The Supreme Court knew that.  The state police that were harassing and arresting people in states that have legalized pot need to get over it.  The propaganda has proved wrong over the last 40 years.  Pot’s less harmful than booze or even cigarettes.  The alleged stigma of pot is just not real.

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By Lucy Ong on January 26, 2009 at 08:00 pm

Call or e-mail the White House and tell Obama’s staff that our new President must honor his campaign pledge not to use Justice Department resources to circumvent state medical marijuana laws and for him to comply with the referenced Supreme Court ruling affirming state’s their right to legalize marijuana or not.

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By Craig B on January 27, 2009 at 08:40 pm

John, you're welcome, and same back at ya.  Your story of your grandmother was beautiful and I was choked up while Molly was leaking tears all over me.

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By Craig B on January 29, 2010 at 06:45 pm

Over the years I have seen far too many Democrats and Republicans walk away from the basic principles upon which our great nation was founded. Republican and Democrat politicians have betrayed our country and traded away our freedom and sovereignty in exchange for a globalist New World Order backed up my far to many "wars."

Consider the state of our great nation:

  • More than half of the 9/11 Terrorists and 11,000,000+ others entering into our country did it illegally...
  • More than 2,000,000 jobs lost to global free trade in 2 years as hundreds of factories close - we buy our bullets now from China...
  • US Troops in more than 100 countries...
  • Every year a new record trade deficit-$451,000,000,000 this year...
  • WTO fines us for cutting taxes...
  • U.S. Federal Government takes control of private land in Oregon and California...
  • Another 1,400,000 pre-born killed and no vote to ban partial-birth abortion...
  • National "Smart Card" IDs to track us...
  • More money and lots more Washington control over our schools...
  • Republicans and Democrats working together to take away our Gun Rights...
  • Increased Food Stamps & Medicaid for illegal aliens...
  • An unfair and needlessly complex tax code...

Those in the political establishment have lost sight of what is best for the American people. Instead...

  • They tax you to buy votes with wasteful programs
  • They ignore you and instead pay attention to large donors and special interests
  • They help big business ship your job overseas
  • They fail to protect the most defenseless and innocent among us
  • They send your children to die on foreign soil for other countries
  • They leave our borders wide open to terrorists but lock out those who want to enter legally
  • They let the UN pass judgment on our laws and our people
  • They control our schools from Washington while locking our kids in failing schools
  • They take away your basic rights while protecting themselves and their cronies

Democrats and Republicans wrongly use our military and military establisment to proudly accomplish far too much of all this.

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