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Are NYC Women Jaded?

by sanjanakumar (writer), January 17, 2009

Recently two males have informed me that women in NYC are jaded. So I decided to ponder that statement. If NYC women are jaded, I think they have been given enough reasons to feel the way they do.

I have heard too many stories from my girlfriends and have been exposed to some really incredulous behavior from the male species.

Example #1. My friend met a guy at the local gym near our office. He was "unhappily" married at the time so they just became friends but there was definitely flirting going on. This continued for well over a year and during this time, the guy separated from his wife. Guy contacts lawyer and starts the divorce process. A year and some odd months later, guy informs my friend that he is officially divorced and he wants to move in with her. The entire relationship guy tells my friend he wants to marry her. So they end up getting a place and my friend believes (because of what guy has said to her) that she will be getting a ring soon. This is year 2 or 3 of this relationship. Not even 3 weeks into their cohabitation does guy reveal that he is NOT divorced. Hmmmm...if my friend is jaded, then I think she has a right to be when she has been COMPLETELY LED ON for over 2 years.

Example #2. Random guy starts iming my friend. Informs her that he poses for adult magazines and proceeds to send her pictures of he and his photo buddies private parts. He then informs my friend that he is interested in performing certain sexual acts on his buddy but claims he is still heterosexual because it would just be sex and it doesn't mean he is gay or bisexual... Random guy then informs my friend that he would like to meet her and perform sexual acts on her. When she thinks she has blocked him, he emails her. She informs random guy that they will never meet. Random guy then states that she is like every other woman in the city. Uhh, whatever that means? Apparently every other woman in the city doesn't want to be harassed by some guy who wants to experiment with men and is confused about his sexuality?

Example #3. A guy from my past contacts me and informs me he had a crush on me when we were younger. I am curious to learn more about this crush. So after a few months of flirtation, guy says he wants to meet in person. So I agree to go visit him(he is out of state) and he cancels last minute, with a multitude of excuses--the top excuse being that it wouldn't be a good idea...huh? A few months go by, and guy states again he wants to get together. So I tell him he can came here to visit. Again come the string of excuses, this time the primary reason being that he has a dog and doesn't want to put him in a kennel. Ummmm hmmmm. So sick of the game, I rarely contact guy. Guy gets girlfriend but yet still tries to play the game. He evn informs me that he is going away with new girlfriend on a cruise. Guess the dog isn't an issue? He proceeds to tell me that I find him intriguing when in reality, I find him mundane and a little boring. He will never put his money where his mouth is because he is too much of a whimp. When push comes to shove, he is like all men that talk a good game but when you really jump on their ideas, they start shitting their pants because they have no idea what to do and never thought you would call them on their bluff.

Example #4. Guy friends who are married that hit on you and think just because you are pretty and single, it's ok. The best part is when you actually know their wife and like her. Marriage is a solemn commitment, you got married for a reason--hopefully because you loved your wife--and you should honor that commitment. And that fact that a girl is single doesn't mean she is pathetic or looking for attention---especially from a married man (unless said woman has low self-esteem but that is not the case with my friends.)

My friend Janet has a theory about guys in NYC. She says guys have too many options in the city. She thinks that if a guy gets a date with you (you being smart, independent, pretty) then guy thinks he can do better than you so he will just stop contacting you in search of something better. When he finally realizes you were a good catch and someone he would want to date..too much time has elapsed and he realizes that he blew it and has no other choice but to move on.

Guys seems to forget that this is the 21st century and that women don't necessarily need them (please refer to my article on Why I don't need a Man) but that we would like to be in a relationship with them, well. when we find someone that interests us. Some jaded women may say that a guy is only good for one thing. In reality that isn't true. All NYC women have to do is take a quick train ride down to the West Village and make a purchase and she will be satisfied every time.



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By Julian Gallo on January 17, 2009 at 05:51 pm

Very interesting piece though I have to say that this sort of thing certainly isn't limited to men.  Women participate in this sort of nonsense as well and quite often.  I don't think any of this is anything other than people's willingness to play games, even well into adulthood.  Until NYC men and women stop pretending that all of life is nothing more than their own personal "reality show" (or "Sex in the City" episode) I'm afraid this sort of thing will not disappear any time soon.  Sometimes it's all nothing more than narcissitic power games, where everything is a "challenge" and everything is some sort of power trip.  It's like high school games, only played by 30 and 40 somethings. 

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By sanjanakumar on January 17, 2009 at 06:10 pm

I agree that it isn't limited to just men playing games but are men jaded or do the prefer to blame the woman as being jaded for her lack of interest? 

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By Julian Gallo on January 17, 2009 at 08:45 pm

...are men jaded or do the prefer to blame the woman as being jaded for her lack of interest? 

That is really only answerable individually, I think.  Some men are jaded...some accuse women of being jaded.  One answer doesn't encompass the whole here.  Sometimes men will find any excuse to explain why there is a lack of interest instead of just facing the fact that the woman is just not into him.  It's an ego defense.  I saw this happen the other way around as well.  There are no "innocent" parties here, believe me.  Men and women play games with each other...or at least those who aren't really serious about being with one another. 

In my case, specifically:  as soon as I detect game playing, I immediately walk away.  Would that be considered "jaded"?  Or is that just not willing to put up with head games as a 40-something? 

I think the answer to your question is individualistic and no one answer will cover it all.

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By john robertson on January 18, 2009 at 12:45 am

Wow! I guess gay men are jaded and jerks too. One party acts like a jerk, and the other one gets jaded. Oh yeah... and lesbians as well. Oh wait: I knew this straight chick once who...

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By 'Mean' Mike Duffau on January 18, 2009 at 01:42 am

let's just make it simple....everybody on this planet is jaded one way or the other.

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By Garry Crystal on January 18, 2009 at 08:18 am

Defined jaded. To me it means worn out depressed and fed up, and if a person keeps letting others treat them in this way, basically putting up with crap behaviour from another, they will at some point become jaded. A person can only take so much before they wise up and there are always signs to look out for. Like Julian said there are people out there who are games players and it doesnt stop for them when they hit later life, they need the drama for some reason. This applies to both men and women the world over and in most cases it comes down to control and insecurity issues.  If these games continue in a relationship from one side then it's going to lead to pain sooner or later, unfortunately a number of people think these games add excitement to a relationship but they usually lead to mistrust. Dont be a victim, games players can wear you down if you let them, theyre not showing any respect to the other person, dont fall for it.

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By Julian Gallo on January 18, 2009 at 08:51 am

there are people out there who are games players and it doesnt stop for them when they hit later life, they need the drama for some reason. This applies to both men and women the world over and in most cases it comes down to control and insecurity issues.

Amen, Garry!  :-)

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By Craig B on January 20, 2009 at 05:55 pm

Garry, I add my amen to Julians.

Garry’s comment “unfortunately a number of people think these games add excitement to a relationship but they usually lead to mistrust,” is true.  Perfect examples are Garry’s Relationship Lessons and my story Flip Flop Rers Among Us, James K. Olson.

Sanjanakumar, a lady has a door held open for her because she expects it as a lady.  My point is maybe these women you described are projecting.

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By Bonnie Wilson on January 22, 2009 at 07:10 pm

Some people, guys and girls both who are not really in love, are in it because they are just flip floppers.  Some are in it for the drama.  Some are in it because they just don't want to be alone.  Some on it it for the game.  Some are in it for the economics, two together can live cheaper than two apart. 

Craig's Flip Flopper Marin County James K. “Jim” Olson , is another sad example of a guy playing some pretty sick games.

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By nikkir386 on June 14, 2009 at 02:57 pm

I really don't think this kind of behavior exhibited from men in limited to NYC...

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