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Consensual drunk sex or rape?

by manny osborne (writer), , September 02, 2007

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If a woman is deemed to have consumed so much alcohol that she is incapable of agreeing to make love, the man would be far more likely to be convicted of rape.


Rape is a very sensitive term to use loosely, it can ruin peoples life and reputation, and rape can destroy the victims life, having sex while you are drunk should be your responsibility, is not the guy fault if you have a morning after regret, but is the guy responsibility to stop and respect the girl decision when she said no.


Some people think "NO" means "MAYBE" and keep trying or use force to get what they want.

Drinking without control can lead to risky sexual behavior. "Men who have sex with drunken women risk being convicted of rape-even if they appear to have given consent."

"Victims don't pass out but are so impaired by alcohol they are unable to appraise their own conduct"

"Alcohol is the #1 date rape drug" said Jill Groblewski spokeswoman for the Wisconsin coalition against sexual assault.

If there is a party where every one is getting drunk and having sex, that constitutes rape?.



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By vickyta on September 03, 2007 at 09:37 pm
well you have to be responsible for your own acts, if you get a DUI you don't accuse the bartender or the beer maker, so if you can control your drinking behavior, DO NOT DRINK.
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By manny osborne on September 06, 2007 at 01:36 pm
Vickyta is a complicated issue, we should think of the consequences before we get wasted.
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By Misery Bunny on October 07, 2007 at 02:36 am
Perhaps it would help if you thought along these terms, which is generally where the law stands: If you don't KNOW you're having consentual sex FOR SURE, then you shouldn't be having sex with that person. As a society, we have to pick someone's consent. Would you prefer the alternative, where society choses the alleged rapist's? There are truly pathological people out there, who think, even as they stuff someone's underpants in their mouths, tie them up, hold a gun on them, and probe them with a shovel, that it is consentual. Should they not be convicted, because they think it's consentual? It's not possible to take the rapist's subjective perspective. Nor, mind you, is a conviction generally based entirely on the victim's perspective. One of the cases we had in law school featured a guy who picked up a woman in a bar and asked her for a ride home. She drove him to his dangerous neighborhood, whereupon he took her car keys. She told him she had to go home to her kid. She sat in the car for a while, then followed him in. "Yeah, she was crying the whole time, and then, yeah, it was weird, she asked me if I was going to kill her." This was while he was having sex with her. He was convicted of rape. Personally, I don't feel sorry for someone who's "confused" about consent like that. No one I've ever had sex with has asked me if I was going to kill them. Then there's the case where this dentist kept having sex with his secretary. She was married to someone else. And she had been sexually abused before. So she just sort of froze whenever this dentist came over to molest her. No response whatsoever, while he was literally having his way with her. After a couple of years, the woman broke down, told her husband, etc. The jury was able to convict the dentist because on one of the rapes, at a Christmas party, he locked the door -- from the outside -- while he got more drinks. Of course, there are less blatant cases. But where do you draw the line? Drunk, flirty, passed out? Completely drunk so that the person is, most likely, not in their right minds? Why should anyone have sex with such a person? It's like having sex with someone of diminished mental capacity. Why shouldn't you bear the risk that they're not ok with it when they come back to themselves? Our society has taken the position that sex shouldn't be about taking advantage of people, whether it's with minors, mentally handicapped people, or non-consenting. Think before you fuck.
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By manny osborne on October 09, 2007 at 08:32 pm
Think before you F***, that will help a lot, and think before you star drinking.
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By Lucy Ong on October 22, 2008 at 10:11 pm

There is no such thing as Consensual drunk sex.  Drinking, especially for women, makes it impossible for a woman to judge as she would when she was sober.  Alcohol affects women much more deleteriously than it does men.  Men should know this and take that into account.  A woman may commit an error in judgment, but that doesn’t mean that she should be raped for that error.

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By law-n-disorder on October 23, 2008 at 08:38 am

Then if you are a woman and really don't want to get so called "drunk raped" DONT DRINK. If you have no self control or self respect just don't drink. Don't blame the guy because "he should know I was too drunk to make a decision". Thats just BS. What is "too drunk"? Who makes the decision of what is too drunk. If you can't handle your alcohol, don't drink... It's time to take responsibility for your own actions.

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By taking off the mask on November 28, 2009 at 01:33 pm

i think there is a fine line between regret and rape. a man usually knows when he crossed the line. the fact that some men use alcohol to get a girl in bed shows he doesn't think she would sleep with him otherwise... so i would consider that very problematic. although i have never had this experience i assume that the blame can be shared. a woman if planning to drink should make sure she has a friend who knows her plans for the night and/or she should just stop at a few drinks. and any man who "fakes" drinking on order to get into a womans pants and keeps pushing drinks her way is most likely considered a rapist in my eyes. sexual behavior should only be acceptable if both partners are aware of whats going on or both are trashed. if the man is sober and the woman trashed its rape in my eyes and he should stop before they even begin

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By wondering on August 03, 2011 at 08:19 pm

senareo! two female friends go out for a girls night out nd get ridiculously drunk but come home alone together to find a male housemate there who gets one of them into bed even though he can see she is far beyond capable of anything let alone consent and knows that she would never consent in a normal situation has sex with her. Girl wakes up the next day in her own bed with no memory of the night before not knowing she had sex. Housemate says nothing knowing she doesn't know or remember anything and tells her a week later that they had unprotected sex which stopped her from protecting herself and getting the morning after pill. Is this rape????

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